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pete9804

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Cannot even get wired connection
« on: July 31, 2014, 10:12:22 PM »
Hello everyone,

I've just installed WattOS R8 LXDE32 on my rather elderly Dell Inspiron 1300, in order to refurb and donate to my brother. It seemed to install fine, unfortunately it does not recognise any wired connection, despite the same machine picking up a wired connection when running Xubuntu live just minutes before the install of WattOS.

Googling around found a fix that suggested I needed to alter the networkmanager.conf file which I duly did, changing "managed=false" to "managed=true". I then restarted network manager as per instructions but this did not work. I also rebooted to no effect.

Another fix was to ## out lines in the etc/network/interfaces file (I ##'ed out "allow-hotplugh eth0") but this didn't do anything either.

Several reboots, and switching router on and off had no effect either.

I'm stumped really. At least when wireless doesn't work you can plug in and download something to fix it!

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Re: Cannot even get wired connection
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2014, 11:12:51 PM »
can you provide the output of?:
sudo ifconfig -a

and

lsmod

if you want to try something that worked for me install wicd

sudo apt-get install wicd

Let me know.

Maroman

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Re: Cannot even get wired connection
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 06:00:06 AM »
are you sure you have all drivers? what is your lan card? I presume you have wireless connection at least. I've noticed not all non-free drivers are installed (if you need one). pay your attention during system start and read all warnings. in my case rtl drivers were missed. you can also check all pci elements (lspci command) to identify your card.

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Re: Cannot even get wired connection
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 11:32:03 AM »
can you provide the output of?:
sudo ifconfig -a

and

lsmod

if you want to try something that worked for me install wicd

sudo apt-get install wicd

Let me know.

Thanks both for your responses.

Outputs:

sudo ifconfig -a

Link encap: Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1
RX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1056(1.0 KiB) TX bytes:1056 (1.0 KiB)

lsmod

odule                  Size  Used by
parport_pc             25991  0
ppdev                  12590  0
lp                     12766  0
parport                35207  3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
bnep                   17185  2
rfcomm                 32278  0
bluetooth             209145  10 bnep,rfcomm
uinput                 17056  1
nfsd                  228692  2
auth_rpcgss            45664  1 nfsd
oid_registry           12387  1 auth_rpcgss
nfs_acl                12463  1 nfsd
nfs                   167462  0
lockd                  69363  2 nfs,nfsd
fscache                36487  1 nfs
sunrpc                194130  6 nfs,nfsd,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl
loop                   21865  0
snd_hda_codec_idt      43934  1
joydev                 16847  0
dell_laptop            17064  0
rfkill                 18380  3 bluetooth,dell_laptop
snd_hda_intel          35006  1
snd_hda_codec         130677  2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep              12910  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                69459  2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_page_alloc         12882  2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
i915                  663443  2
dcdbas                 13162  1 dell_laptop
iTCO_wdt               12727  0
snd_seq                43264  0
iTCO_vendor_support    12585  1 iTCO_wdt
snd_seq_device         12980  1 snd_seq
snd_timer              22187  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd                    46786  10 snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
psmouse                89644  0
pcspkr                 12531  0
evdev                  17174  15
serio_raw              12737  0
soundcore              12890  1 snd
lpc_ich                16616  0
rng_core               12608  0
drm_kms_helper         35224  1 i915
drm                   194359  3 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit           12647  1 i915
i2c_core               23506  4 drm,i915,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit
video                  17518  1 i915
battery                12949  0
acpi_cpufreq           12936  0
processor              23266  2 acpi_cpufreq
button                 12824  1 i915
ac                     12598  0
ext4                  438316  1
crc16                  12327  2 ext4,bluetooth
mbcache                12938  1 ext4
jbd2                   64761  1 ext4
sg                     25593  0
sd_mod                 43628  3
sr_mod                 21563  0
crc_t10dif             12399  1 sd_mod
crct10dif_common       12340  1 crc_t10dif
cdrom                  38861  1 sr_mod
ata_generic            12450  0
ata_piix               29409  2
libata                157376  2 ata_generic,ata_piix
thermal                17268  0
thermal_sys            22713  3 video,thermal,processor
scsi_mod              155430  4 sg,libata,sd_mod,sr_mod
ehci_pci               12432  0
uhci_hcd               26224  0
ehci_hcd               43697  1 ehci_pci
usbcore               137870  3 uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci
usb_common             12484  1 usbcore

Just to clarify, I have neither wired nor wireless connection, so I can't install anything at all!!

Regarding drivers - I don't know how to check this. If I can find out, is it possible to download the right ones on another computer and transfer them across?

Thanks.

Maroman

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Re: Cannot even get wired connection
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2014, 12:26:17 PM »
usually network elements are either pci cards or usb dongles/cards. try in terminal
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lspci command to identify all pci devices and
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lsusb respectively. in this way you can check the names and google the kind of driver

sooner or later you need any network connectivity. assuming it's driver problem, you are to install it. xubuntu proofs that you have ethernet card working. ubuntu installs all free and non-free drivers. I'm afraid wattos installs only some of them. what about wireless? you do not have it working or you do not have access point to check how it works? to some extend it's important. if you need non-free driver you should look around any network device (probable wired or wireless dongle) to get connection and install non-free driver.

you can also try mobile (gsm) dongle, however it might be more difficult.

cheers,

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Re: Cannot even get wired connection
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2014, 04:48:56 PM »
When I looked up your computer, I found these installed: Dell 1470 Internal Wireless 802.11a/b/g and Integrated Network Card (ethernet). You should have drivers for those in wattOS R8 install cd. You can always reinstall and make sure to connect to the internet first, before installing.

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Re: Cannot even get wired connection
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2014, 01:58:27 PM »
So I started again from scratch, and downloaded the iso again, and this time confirmed the checksum. As last time, I created a bootable USB with unetbootin. I then booted my current laptop (i.e. NOT the one I've been having trouble with) with the USB and when I clicked on the Network Manager icon it recognised that there was a wired connection and connected to it. Trying to boot the old one again I had the same problem, doesn't recognise any wired connection even though in both instances the cable is connected.

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Re: Cannot even get wired connection
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2014, 09:12:37 PM »
as MAROMAN said:do "lspci" and look for "Ethernet Controller" on the list

then google search to find out what linux package contains driver for that uncommon device dell used
download its "debian" package, get it into your dell  and use "gdebi" to install it

for your wifi model, look for "Network Controller" in the "lspci" output