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biffster:
Well

It appears that we have a few issues with Microwatt, so I figured I would solicit some feedback before I make a final decision to move forward. With the install of Qupzilla and the subsequent pull of some Jessie packages, it has broke a few things related to dependencies. Which is not entirely surprising, but can be labor intensive to fix manually, so I want to discuss a couple options.

My inclination at this point is to update and release two Microwatt versions very soon (Microwatt only - call it Microwatt 8.1) Those would be updated and available in the next week, and put these issues to bed.

One version Microwatt 8.1- Jessie based (Debian - testing) that has Qupzilla as the default browser and all the updated Jessie packages - considered more cutting edge.

One version Microwatt 8.1 - Wheezy (Debian Stable) that has Midori as its default browser and all stable wheezy only packages. - considered more conservative

The reality is that both likely will run well, but there is always more chance of breakage on Jessie as things get settled with it from the upstream Debian.

If you feel adventurous and are having current Microwatt dependency problems, simply add the Jessie repo to your sources and you will then be able to update the package you want (like installing printing that has been reported as a problem). That is not ideal I am aware, which is why I am considering taking the above path so you can choose what suits you best. Again you can manually work though the dependencies and fix them in your current installs as they come up on a case by case basis.

So fire away and let me know your thoughts.

If you want to test yourself now on your current Microwattt (R8 install), and try some Jessie packages, (and fix some of your dependencies).

simply edit /etc/apt/sources.list

sudo nano sources.list

Add the line at the bottom of the file

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib

Save the file

then

sudo apt-get update

Then install whatever packages you need that previously did not work. (like system-config-printer to fix printing)

You do not have to do a full upgrade as you can have some packages co-mingled (again yes I know not ideal) but I have tested that scenario for the last week with no problems. If you do a full upgrade, it will take a good bit of time, and you will essentially be running Jessie.

BALLOON a.k.a. Fu-sen.:
I think that Microwatt should maintain Wheezy(Stable).

The change of Jessie(testing) changes the boot situation. (It does not boot in my Main PC !)
LXDE, MATE(Wheezy) is a usable model, and the state that Microwatt(Jessie) is not usable occurs.
This is a support side, but produces big confusion.

In the case of Japan, input method changes in Wheezy and Jessie.
I come to have to cope by addition for Jessie support.

It will not produce the particularly big confusion to change the browser to Midori.

blaze:
Thank you for raising this topic biffbaxter, have been thinking of doing it myself. I fully support your idea of two releases, one stable and one based on testing. The backport solution have never been an acquired taste for me, I prefer to stay on one base level and sort out eventual problems there. If I had to choose just one of the two above I would go for testing in this case. Just my two cents.

teejay:
Good response, Biff.
Suggest R8.1 for the Wheezy version and R8.5 for the Jessie version.  This would be consistent with the (fairly) recent "mid-year experimental" strategy. 

teejay:
While formulating microwatt R8.x, perhaps you might consider :

- the issue of autologin has again arisen, as it sometimes did for U-based releases of wattOS. 
How about enforcing NON-autologin at install, and providing a post-install utility to change that ?
Nothing fancy, same sort of thing as checking for proprietary drivers or adding an office suite.

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