Hi Ron, Blaze et al,

Whilst looking for a solution to the translation problems with Update Manager, I discovered the following page.

Advice needed: update-manager in wheezy considered dangerous

So, I installed gnome-packagekit (3.4.2-2) which installs 3 applications (Software Update, Add/Remove Software and Software Settings).

Software Update appears to have to download the list of available updates every time it is opened. It only has 2 categories which are Security Updates and Other Updates. The list of Security Updates matches what I see in Update Manager.

There is no Third Party Updates category and those problem packages associated with the use of Broadband USB Modems are included under the category of Other Updates.

Software Update shows the same packages as Update Manager.

Translations appear to be working for all 3 applications for the gnome-packagekit package.

I noticed the following being suggested as an upgrade.
   Linux for older PCs (meta-package) 3.16+62~bpo70+1

Currently, the following 2 packages are installed.
    linux-image-3.13-0.bpo.1-486 (for use on PCs with a Single Processor not supporting PAE)
        Installed and Ultimate version are the same - 3.13.10-1~bpo70+1
    linux-image-486 (for use on PCs with a Single Processor not supporting PAE)
        Installed version is 3.13+56~bpo70+1 and Ultimate version is 3.16+62~bpo70+1
Should any of these be installed on a PC with a Pentium P4 that supports PAE and has the following characteristics?
coreinfo v3.21 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
Copyright (C) 2008-2013 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

              Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz
x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1, GenuineIntel
HTT             *       Hyperthreading enabled
HYPERVISOR      -       Hypervisor is present
VMX             -       Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
SVM             -       Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
EM64T           *       Supports 64-bit mode

SMX             -       Supports Intel trusted execution
SKINIT          -       Supports AMD SKINIT

NX              -       Supports no-execute page protection
SMEP            -       Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention
SMAP            -       Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
PAGE1GB         -       Supports 1 GB large pages
PAE             *       Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
PAT             *       Supports Page Attribute Table
PSE             *       Supports 4 MB pages
PSE36           *       Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
PGE             *       Supports global bit in page tables
SS              *       Supports bus snooping for cache operations
VME             *       Supports Virtual-8086 mode
RDWRFSGSBASE    -       Supports direct GS/FS base access

FPU             *       Implements i387 floating point instructions
MMX             *       Supports MMX instruction set
MMXEXT          -       Implements AMD MMX extensions
3DNOW           -       Supports 3DNow! instructions
3DNOWEXT        -       Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
SSE             *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
SSE2            *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
SSE3            *       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
SSSE3           -       Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
SSE4a           -       Supports Sreaming SIMDR Extensions 4a
SSE4.1          -       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
SSE4.2          -       Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2

AES             -       Supports AES extensions
AVX             -       Supports AVX intruction extensions
FMA             -       Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
MSR             *       Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
MTRR            *       Supports Memory Type Range Registers
XSAVE           -       Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
OSXSAVE         -       Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
RDRAND          -       Supports RDRAND instruction
RDSEED          -       Supports RDSEED instruction

CMOV            *       Supports CMOVcc instruction
CLFSH           *       Supports CLFLUSH instruction
CX8             *       Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
CX16            *       Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
BMI1            -       Supports bit manipulation extensions 1
BMI2            -       Supports bit manipulation extensions 2
ADX             -       Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions
DCA             -       Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
F16C            -       Supports half-precision instruction
FXSR            *       Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
FFXSR           -       Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
MONITOR         *       Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
MOVBE           -       Supports MOVBE instruction
ERMSB           -       Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB
PCLULDQ         -       Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
POPCNT          -       Supports POPCNT instruction
LZCNT           -       Supports LZCNT instruction
SEP             *       Supports fast system call instructions
LAHF-SAHF       -       Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode
HLE             -       Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions
RTM             -       Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions

DE              *       Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
DTES64          *       Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
DS              *       Implements memory-resident debug buffer
DS-CPL          *       Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
PCID            -       Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
INVPCID         -       Supports INVPCID instruction
PDCM            -       Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
RDTSCP          -       Supports RDTSCP instruction
TSC             *       Supports RDTSC instruction
TSC-DEADLINE    -       Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
TSC-INVARIANT   -       TSC runs at constant rate
xTPR            *       Supports disabling task priority messages

EIST            -       Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
ACPI            *       Implements MSR for power management
TM              *       Implements thermal monitor circuitry
TM2             *       Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
APIC            *       Implements software-accessible local APIC
x2APIC          -       Supports x2APIC

CNXT-ID         *       L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS

MCE             *       Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
MCA             *       Implements Machine Check Architecture
PBE             *       Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin

PSN             -       Implements 96-bit processor serial number

PREFETCHW       -       Supports PREFETCHW instruction

Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 00000005 (Basic), 80000008 (Extended).

Logical to Physical Processor Map:
*  Physical Processor 0

Logical Processor to Socket Map:
*  Socket 0

Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
*  NUMA Node 0

Logical Processor to Cache Map:
*  Data Cache          0, Level 1,   16 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
*  Unified Cache       0, Level 2,    1 MB, Assoc   8, LineSize 128
This all leaves me wondering as to how to advise new Linux Users, who do not have advanced computer experience, as to the best way to manage Package Installations and Updates instead of blindly accepting what is presented by the various Package/Update Managers.

Given that Update Manager has a category for Third Party Updates, is that the preferred application, at present, for managing updates for non-technical users? If so, then, I still need a solution to the translation problems with it.

For myself, when testing changes to the Operating System (OS), I have been using partclone from the Terminal command line of the Live Persistent version I have on a USB Flash Drive. I am thinking that the easiest way, for non-technical people, to manage things in case an installation or upgrade needs to be reversed is to use a graphical backup utility. Which would you recommend? Can these be used to backup and restore the partition of an active OS?

Otherwise, the other option, given that I will be remastering the installation once I have it all configured and configuring a USB Flash Drive with persistence with the remastered ISO as a backup system, is to document instructions to do what I have been doing with partclone but non-technical users may find that to be rather tedious and inconvenient.

With Synaptic (version 0.75.13), I discovered that Filters can't be deleted. Would it be safe to install version 0.81.2 from Jessie which fixes this problem?
http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/s/synaptic/unstable_changelog

After installing gnome-packagekit, Synaptic now has a Rapid Filter feature in the Toolbar as I had seen when using Mint 16 KDE. So, that's 1 benefit to installing gnome-packagekit.

Does anyone have a clue as to what Dependency, installed for the gnome-packagekit, would have caused that change in Synaptic? The version number of Synaptic was not changed.

Thanks, Michael.

Hi Biff, Blaze et al,

In the MATÉ Desktop Environment there is a Recent Documents item for the Places menu.

Is it possible to also have a Recent Applications item for the Applications menu?

With regards to LXDE, according to the following page it is possible to add Sub-menus for Recent Files and Devices.

http://lxlinux.com/openbox.html

Could the Recent Files script be modified to create a Sub-menu for Recent Applications?

Thanks, Michael.

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Hi Biff et al,

Of all the files that are installed in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions, when wattOS R8 LXDE 32-bit is installed, only the files org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.policy and org.opensuse.cupspkhelper.mechanism.policy come anywhere close to providing an adequate and consistently applied range of translations.

I can provide Spanish translations where necessary.

Am I correct in surmising that this should be the responsibility of the people who maintain each package?

Thanks, Michael.

Hi Biff et al,

Can anyone recommend a PO (Translation File) Editor that allows you to edit both the Header and Original Messages and correctly displays the text of the Original Message including formatting markup (e.g. <big><b></b></big>)?

Gtranslator allows editing of the Header but I can't edit the Original Messages.

PoEdit allows editing of the Original Messages but isn't displaying the markup and doesn't have an interface for editing the Header.

Please provide the version number if you are absolutely sure of an application that will allow the above.

Thanks, Michael.

Hi Biff et al,

It took me a while to finally settle on a distribution for the old Desktop computer (CPU: Pentium P4 2.66 GHz; RAM: 512 MB, 333MHz; 40 GB Hard Drive, 58 MB/s) I am renovating for my Landlord.

The critical factors, that finally swayed me to select wattOS R8 LXDE 32-bit, were the speed and low memory footprint of wattOS R8.

I couldn't appreciate how low the memory footprint was, though, until I actually installed it. Unlike other distros I had installed there was an actual, and significant, drop of 20 MB in the memory footprint measured when the Desktop had become active (77 MB). This is really good for a computer that only has 512 MB to work with. Every little bit helps. The computer gets to the Login prompt in 45 seconds whereas the previously installed Windows XP Professional SP3 was taking 52 seconds until the Desktop was stabilised enough to start using it.

I would like to know if there is an equally significant drop in the memory foot print when the MATE version is installed.

I am really hoping that 64-bit versions of R9 will support UEFI (Secure Boot disabled) so that I can try them on my Laptop.

Kudos and Thanks, Michael.

Hi Biff et al,

The text displayed in the Update Manager Window is not 100% correct for the chosen Locale/Language.

The locale I am using, for the old PC I am setting up, is "es_PE.UTF-8 UTF-8".

Some of the text is in English and some is in Spanish. This is happening with the LXDE 32-bit version.

Is there a solution for this like an updated language database file?

Thanks, Michael.

Hi Biff et al,

I want to do a test run of remastering wattOS R8 LXDE 32-bit.

I've found the following page and I was wondering if someone could confirm that I'm ok to roll with these instructions.

http://lxlinux.com/remastersys.html

According to the repositories, libglib2.0-0 (2.33.12+really2.32.4-5) is already installed. The latest version available is 2.42.0-2 at https://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libglib2.0-0/download.

So, should I skip step (iv)?

I'm also wondering what effect if any the installation of glib2.0_2.31.12-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz will have on the above libglib2.0-0 that is currently installed.

I'm not sure what step (vi) is about. Is this indicating, that after following step (v), that there should be a corresponding entry in the sources.list file?

Anything else, or any gotchas, that I should know about?

Thanks, Michael.