to me...

LXDE is desirable much more than Mate.

microWatt should be a minimalized version of the full LXDE, without the LXDE desktop, and a super-light footprint desktop, like jwm, fluxbox, icewm or openbox/tint2, using light browser

Sorry, that solution has always worked for my nvidia cards. 

Do you have anything odd in your boot lines?

Can you try doing the whole sequence with a different monitor attached?

Those are the only things left that I can think of if 3.2.0-4 kernel, nvidia drivers, and nvidia-xconfig don't solve it. 

If you have space on the drive, crunchbang 11 or antix 13.2 and debian wheezy all have worked for me doing it that way.  Antix is a quick install.

Sounds like you should be volunteering to help with translations!

I hate that xorg.conf file.  Its always been trouble!  Like on my machine with 3 two headed nVidia vga cards and 6 lcd screens, Oh my!  It took forever to get that to work...

Well, I hope that one works for you.  And you probably would have thought initially that this was going to be EASY!

PS: I have had lots of "illegal instruction" crashes with both qupzilla and midori on my old laptop, seamonkey seems to run fine, though.

Thanks for filling us in on where things are going...

I would be most interested in an LXDE / Openbox version, and since most of my systems have 4 gb of memory or less, and some are 32 bit machines, I would hope to see a 32 bit PAE version.

I also would like to see a self regenerating menu that adds new programs added to the menu structure and a "Run" command from the menu.

I wouldn't be upset if there was no automatic upgrade from R8 to R9, and suspect it might be a lot of effort to get it to work.

Your R8 is very quick, and I think you should put that effort into trying to stay with that tradition as much as you can because that's the BIG thing that distinguishes your distro from the others.

Thanks again for your efforts...

The R8 LXDE version is not haveing the problem, so I'll mark this solved.

Thriftee if you are new to Linux I would suggest trying the LXDE version of wattOS R8 unless you have a compelling reason to not. (Which I understand of course).

I will be posting a clean wattOS R8.1 in two weeks or so that will likely not being having the issues you are having with dependencies, installing stuff, etc.

tks
biff

Thanks for the reply Biff.  Yes, I'll mark this solved and give the LXDE version a try, and can wait a couple weeks to try the openbox. again.

Being a "MS Windows Refugee" running mostly on older hardware, I'm looking for an efficient system, both in terms of memory utilization and efficient use of what CPU there is.  Openbox is pretty good there, but not the best, IMO, so its not a bad idea to trry the LXDE

Thanks again for all your efforts

Its like a mosquito that chases me around, LOL.  It bites me in the neck, then goes away for a bit, and when I'm not looking again, it bites me in the leg.  Its a little different each time.  I did search for su authentication failure, but I think its just because nobody else typed in that error message.  The next person looking will find this post.

I tried Ubuntu once and only lasted one day because it felt like I was doing work to make the computer happy instead of the computer working for me.

What I was doing (su from within a terminal session) did work for almost a week, and I don't understand why it stopped working, but I'm guessing you are saying it wasn't really supposed to work in the first place.

Now it appears I can get a root terminal session that can do a copy/paste only by opening a terminal session, then doing a

sudo roxterm
The normal admin terminal session on the menu being used here can't do a copy/paste even with clipit installed and that's why I'm using roxterm, so that I can copy and paste the screen output to avoid needing to rekey all the messages by hand.

Anyway, thanks for pointing me to that post.  I'll mark this solved since I now have a root terminal session that can copy/paste.  That was what I was trying to get...