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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2016, 11:58:22 AM »
blaze,
I don't consider the problem solved because the installer is not able to install the grub into the efi-boot-partition.
Something with the installer is wrong.

The Lubuntu 16.10 installer didn't fail to install the grub. Thus something in that installer is right which isn't right in the wattOS installer.

Ok, maybe I am wrong on this and the installer is ok but my laptop is the culprit, but why isn't it the culprit with Lubuntu ?
I have no answer for this.


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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2016, 02:35:58 PM »
Sorry, me being sloppy.  :-[
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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2016, 08:47:05 PM »
Ok, this is quite a weird one. Just a couple of questions since I am very curious. I find the install process very fascinating, that is why I am asking. :)

berliner, in post #8 you say that you choose to install grub to sda1. Why? Grub normally should be installed to sda. Did you ever try to dd the iso to usb? (It is in my experience the best method.) Is it possible to turn off Uefi in BIOS and just use Legacy mode?

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2016, 09:58:16 PM »
blaze,
the laptop has a Uefi boot partition on sda1.
Therefore I select   sda1  as target for the grub2. Everywhere I read about uefi, it says that grub must be installed into the uefi-partition.

I let this rest now. I am too frustrated to invest more time into it.
Other distros installed without errors and I am using them.



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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2016, 05:49:10 AM »
Ok, thanks for the answer. :)
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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2016, 10:21:10 AM »
blaze,
I tried it again.
Made a new USB-live-stick with dd  ,  installed it on my laptop and did not change anything, I let it install grub2 to sda  as suggested by the installer.

Result ?
The installer crashed.

I give up on this and thank you for your  help.

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2016, 12:47:46 PM »
Thank you for trying once again berliner. Even if the result were  :( Now I know that I have to read up a bit on this Uefi stuff.
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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2016, 09:37:53 AM »
blaze,
I went 1 step further in this mystery.

On the german ubuntuusers.wiki I found this article
https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EFI_USB-Stick/#ISO-entpacken
It describes how to create a live-usb-stick without using tools.

In short:
1. Format an USB-stick with vfat32
2. Download your desktop-amd64.iso
3. Unzip the iso into a folder
4. Select "show hidden files" in your file-manager (only on linux OS necessary)
5. Copy the whole content of the folder (point 3) to the USB-stick.
Ready.

Now the USB-stick can be used as live-system.

I did all as described, the USB-stick is booted in the laptop.
When I select "try osWatt10 without installing it", I am getting the following error-messages on my screen:

Code: [Select]
BusyBox v1.22.1 Ubuntu 1:1.22.0-15ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device
Can not mount dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs

That is all.
The cursor blinks forever, nothing happens.

So I hope somebody understands that I will not use wattOS anymore. Cost me so much time, while other OS like Peppermint-7 or Lubuntu or Xubuntu or Linux Mint installed on exactly the same laptop without producing any errors or crashes.

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2016, 11:21:56 AM »
I have flagged this with Biff and hopefully he should be able to get online soon and solve it for you

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 09:54:24 PM »
Thank you cheiron.

Since I am the only one with this problem, I have the impression that the problem is my laptop.
Something there with the harddrive, with the efi-partition, with the efi-bootmanager.

But then I think: Why does Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Peppermint-7 and Mint install without errors and only wattOS fails to install grub into the efi-partition ?

It is a mystery to me.

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2016, 09:58:10 PM »
This is why i have flagged it to Biff, berliner!


As he makes the OS in person, he should be able to spot something the other members here that have tried to help possibly overlooked.


Please bear with us though, Biff has a manic work schedule and does try and get on as often as he can.

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2016, 05:03:55 PM »
No problem, cheiron.

I have gone a bit further on this.

I decided to let the installer delete everything on the hard-drive of the laptop in order to only install the live-usb-OS.
In this case the installer is able to create the necessary  efi-boot-partition by itself.
The installer grabs the whole harddrive and creates only 3 partitions.

sda1  the efi-system-partition where grub must be installed
sda2  the root-partition of the OS
sda3  swap-partition

1. Made a brand new wattOS R10 USB-live stick with dd
Result:  Installer crashed as usual, was not able to install grub into efi-systempartition.

2. Made a custom-distro with Pinguybuilder from my Peppermint-7 OS installation on my PC and made a live custom-USB-stick from it and installed on my laptop.
Result:  Installer crashed. Was not able to install grub.

3. Made a live-usb-stick from Peppermint-7 iso and installed it on my laptop.
Result:  Runs through without error. Installed grub into efi-boot-partition.   Perfect.

At this point it is obvious that something on wattOS R10-iso is broken.

Same error occurs with my custom-OS, built with Pinguybuilder.

Only the standard Peppermint-7 iso, downloaded from their website, installs without crash, without error.
Same applies to Lubuntu 16.10,  to Xubuntu and Mint-distros.  They all do not crash, they all install grub into the efi-partition.

Now I will rest until biff finds time.

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2017, 05:10:17 PM »
same problem here installing R10 to my Lenovo YOGA3 I7 14" ...GRUB2 install crashed if I use my UEFI sda2 partition, same as I tried to install to sda...or trying to install to another USB stick
of course "berliner" ist right...all my other systems installed by stick ISO on YOGA3 are running perfect, like Ubuntu17 or Mint18 or LXLE or Manjaro17 well running at all...
I talked to "blaze" days before...hope somebody is a GURU here and online before XMAS...

happy holidays...dear friends(!)  ;)

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails ...others too
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2017, 01:25:34 AM »
think...it's an unexpected christmas gift...did a test run using ubuntu boot repair stick/CD from YannUbuntu (https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/) and tried my dead R10 WATT OS partition, ext4 ....and it really works perfect  after doing. thousand thanks Santa(!)  ::)

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Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2017, 12:44:23 PM »
Why not install the WattOS R9 ? It is LTS and will be updated until 2019.