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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: November 06, 2016, 05:03:55 PM »
No problem, cheiron.

I have gone a bit further on this.

I decided to let the installer delete everything on the hard-drive of the laptop in order to only install the live-usb-OS.
In this case the installer is able to create the necessary  efi-boot-partition by itself.
The installer grabs the whole harddrive and creates only 3 partitions.

sda1  the efi-system-partition where grub must be installed
sda2  the root-partition of the OS
sda3  swap-partition

1. Made a brand new wattOS R10 USB-live stick with dd
Result:  Installer crashed as usual, was not able to install grub into efi-systempartition.

2. Made a custom-distro with Pinguybuilder from my Peppermint-7 OS installation on my PC and made a live custom-USB-stick from it and installed on my laptop.
Result:  Installer crashed. Was not able to install grub.

3. Made a live-usb-stick from Peppermint-7 iso and installed it on my laptop.
Result:  Runs through without error. Installed grub into efi-boot-partition.   Perfect.

At this point it is obvious that something on wattOS R10-iso is broken.

Same error occurs with my custom-OS, built with Pinguybuilder.

Only the standard Peppermint-7 iso, downloaded from their website, installs without crash, without error.
Same applies to Lubuntu 16.10,  to Xubuntu and Mint-distros.  They all do not crash, they all install grub into the efi-partition.

Now I will rest until biff finds time.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: November 05, 2016, 09:54:24 PM »
Thank you cheiron.

Since I am the only one with this problem, I have the impression that the problem is my laptop.
Something there with the harddrive, with the efi-partition, with the efi-bootmanager.

But then I think: Why does Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Peppermint-7 and Mint install without errors and only wattOS fails to install grub into the efi-partition ?

It is a mystery to me.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: November 05, 2016, 09:37:53 AM »
blaze,
I went 1 step further in this mystery.

On the german ubuntuusers.wiki I found this article
https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EFI_USB-Stick/#ISO-entpacken
It describes how to create a live-usb-stick without using tools.

In short:
1. Format an USB-stick with vfat32
2. Download your desktop-amd64.iso
3. Unzip the iso into a folder
4. Select "show hidden files" in your file-manager (only on linux OS necessary)
5. Copy the whole content of the folder (point 3) to the USB-stick.
Ready.

Now the USB-stick can be used as live-system.

I did all as described, the USB-stick is booted in the laptop.
When I select "try osWatt10 without installing it", I am getting the following error-messages on my screen:

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BusyBox v1.22.1 Ubuntu 1:1.22.0-15ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device
Can not mount dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
That is all.
The cursor blinks forever, nothing happens.

So I hope somebody understands that I will not use wattOS anymore. Cost me so much time, while other OS like Peppermint-7 or Lubuntu or Xubuntu or Linux Mint installed on exactly the same laptop without producing any errors or crashes.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: November 03, 2016, 10:21:10 AM »
blaze,
I tried it again.
Made a new USB-live-stick with dd  ,  installed it on my laptop and did not change anything, I let it install grub2 to sda  as suggested by the installer.

Result ?
The installer crashed.

I give up on this and thank you for your  help.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: November 02, 2016, 09:58:16 PM »
blaze,
the laptop has a Uefi boot partition on sda1.
Therefore I select   sda1  as target for the grub2. Everywhere I read about uefi, it says that grub must be installed into the uefi-partition.

I let this rest now. I am too frustrated to invest more time into it.
Other distros installed without errors and I am using them.




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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 29, 2016, 11:58:22 AM »
blaze,
I don't consider the problem solved because the installer is not able to install the grub into the efi-boot-partition.
Something with the installer is wrong.

The Lubuntu 16.10 installer didn't fail to install the grub. Thus something in that installer is right which isn't right in the wattOS installer.

Ok, maybe I am wrong on this and the installer is ok but my laptop is the culprit, but why isn't it the culprit with Lubuntu ?
I have no answer for this.


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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 28, 2016, 09:13:18 PM »
I don't know where to find the "boot list".

Default OS booting is Lubuntu because wattOS failed to install or update the grub into the Uefi-boot-partition.

According to your advice I checked the etc/default/grub in Lubuntu. As expected , it has the "quiet splash" written there, otherwise Lubuntu would show the boot-messages too, but it never did.

I made "sudo update-grub" in the Lubuntu, then restarted the laptop and selected wattOS to boot and now the boot-messages are gone.

I don't know why, but the problem with the boot-messages is solved now.
Thanks, billwho, for your help.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 28, 2016, 07:23:26 AM »
Thanks billwho.
In etc/default/grub the relevant line says:
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"I removed the blank and the word "splash", saved it , updated grub and rebooted, but the boot messages are still there.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 28, 2016, 06:02:56 AM »
Thanks for flagging the thread.

Today I downloaded R10 anew, checked Md5 and put the iso on a live-usb-stick via multi-system.

The first installation on my laptop failed again.
This time I did not check the "download of third party software" and I didn't check the download of release something during installation.
I selected sda1 as target for the  grub.

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Installation of GRUB failed
The package grub-efi-amd64-signed could not be installed in target. Without the GRUB-bootloader the installed system will not boot
(not exactly this text, I translated it from german)

Next try:
I did not select "Other" in the installer but  "install beside existing OS", so the installer has to find the efi-boot-partition by itself and install the grub2 there.

It failed again.
The error-message says:
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Installation of GRUB failed
The package grub-efi-amd64-signed could not be installed in target. Without the GRUB-bootloader the installed system will not boot

After shutdown and removing of the live-usb-stick, the booting of the laptop brought the old grub-menu. I selected the Lubuntu 10.0 and there I put  "sudo update-grub" into the terminal.

After restarting the laptop the 2 wattOS appeared in the grub-menu screen.
I selected the first one and wattOS started to load but it gave many messages on the screen ... the whole procedure what it loads and then "OK" in green.
But after that show the login-screen of  wattOS appeared , of course the cursor did not work, so I had to unplug the usb-mouse and plug again, then the curser worked and I could login to wattOS.

Since wattOS R10 now is installed and there seems no solution for the problem, I would be interested in knowing how to stop the boot-show with all the messages on the screen.
I guess I have to tweak some settings somewhere in the root-files ?

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 19, 2016, 06:21:42 AM »
A new day.

I downloaded Lubuntu 16.10 , the brand new distro.
Used the mint-stick app on my PC in whatOS to copy the iso to the USB-stick.

Installed Lubuntu 16.10 on my laptop from that USB-stick ...  no errors, no installer-crash.

I write this comment from my laptop Lubuntu 16.10 and am happy.

My guess:  something in the whatOS R10 iso is broken which causes the crash of the installer on my laptop.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 19, 2016, 12:00:09 AM »
Dan,
although I am not an expert, it is obvious to me that your advice did not cause the mess.
Why ?

Because I tried about 5 or 6 times to install , then listened to your advice and tried it about 3 or 4 times with different Bios settings.
The installer crashed each time when trying to install the grub to the efi-boot-partition.
Has absolutely nothing to do with your advice.

From what I have read in forums and wiki's it has to do with my laptop, with the Bios, with settings there, with the hardware etc.
I read the relevant Ubuntu-wiki tutorials and explanations about Uefi-boot and installation of Ubuntu distros.
On some Laptops like Acer, the user has to set exactly the opposite Bios options than other Laptops.
And they warn about damaging the uefi-partition and the grub there. It happens not only to me, it has happened to many users.

I am not able to find the cause in my case, but your advice was never the cause, you can trust me in this.

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wattOS R10 / Re: Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:13:45 PM »
Dan, I will try it.

I always check these boxes because it is recommended everywhere. I didn't know it is not recommended with whatOS.

Edit: Tried it but failed.

In the end, the laptop did not boot anymore. Strange messages appeared instead of the boot-menu.
Even the boot-repair live-usb-stick did not boot. The laptop did not boot from the harddrive nor from usb-stick.
While experimenting with boot options in the Bios, suddenly the boot-repair-live-distro loaded.
What a luck.
After it did it's normal automatic boot-repair routine, the laptop booted.

It even offered to boot whatOS R10, which was never installed properly.
No wonder that the booting is different from normal because it starts with messages running over the screen. Line after line and mostly it checks the lines with an "Ok".
I think it is listing all it is doing at boot.
Finally the login screen of whatOS appeared and the login worked.

What can I say ?
The grub-menu looks different from normal.
It shows Linux Mint Mate now which wasn't there before this mess. And strange enough, it does boot. Before the mess I had Mint Xfce installed which worked fine, now it is gone and Mate is there.
I have no clue what happened, everything is screwed up now.

Somehow I have the feeling, that I will wipe the harddrive and install one of the distros which have worked before on the laptop.
Distros like LMDE2 or  MInt Xfce or Sparky.   
Then later on, when maybe there is a new version of whatOS which hopefully will install, trying it then again with whatOS.

Good thing: I saved all my personal files before all the mess started to happen.
Sorry to say, but right now I am frustrated. Hours of installing and then the fear that booting is not possible anymore.
I must get rest to recover from this.

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wattOS R10 / Installation on Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) fails
« on: October 18, 2016, 08:24:48 AM »
I have tried it now 4 times.
When it comes to the installation of Grub, the installer crashes and says "installation of Grub in target failed".

The Toshiba Satellite Laptop is Uefi and I have Sparky Linux and 2 Mint-Distros installed on it. They all use the same installer as wattOS and it worked fine.

I selected sda as place for the grub  -- it failed.
I selected sda1 as place for the grub, which is the Efi-boot-partition  -- it failed.
I selected sda5 as place for the grub, which is the partition where the root of whatOS R10 is installed  -- it failed.  ( In Ubuntu wiki about installation they say that it is possible to install the grub into the PBR of the partition where the distro is installed (where the mount point / is)  and the main distro which has it's grub in the Uefi-boot-partition must be updated , then the multi-boot-menu will let you select the new installed distro ).   This failed too.

Now I have no clue how to install whatOS on my laptop. Maybe you can help ?

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wattOS R10 / Re: Shutdown is way too slow ( takes 62 seconds )
« on: October 17, 2016, 08:26:37 AM »
I made a test based on my experience with Peppermint 7, where I uninstalled Samba in order to speed up booting and the result was a slow shutdown.

Since Samba isn't installed in whatOS R10, I installed it with
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sudo apt-get install samba system-config-samba
Result:  Shutdown is now about 3 seconds.
boot about 27 seconds.

Is this the solution ?
I think so, although I don't understand it.

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wattOS R10 / Shutdown is way too slow ( takes 62 seconds )
« on: October 17, 2016, 04:51:19 AM »
From the mouse-click on  "Shutdown" button in the logout-menu until the PC is shut down, it takes 62 seconds.
That is way too slow.

I remember it was about 2 or 3 seconds, but I cannot remember when it changed to 62 seconds. Maybe some installation or upgrade of kernel ?

The boot takes 26 seconds, which is very fast for my PC.

Here is my inxi -Fz  info :
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System:    Host: franz-Inspiron-560 Kernel: 4.4.0-43-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1) Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
Machine:   System: Dell product: Inspiron 560 v: 00
           Mobo: Dell model: 0K83V0 v: A00 Bios: Dell v: A00 date: 10/06/2009
CPU:       Dual core Pentium E5400 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2700 MHz 1: 2003 MHz 2: 1603 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood XT [Radeon HD 5670/5690/5730]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5000 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-3 Microsoft driver: USB Audio
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-43-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169
           IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (5.8% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD3200AAKS size: 320.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 15G used: 4.7G (34%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda12
           ID-2: /home size: 31G used: 2.6G (9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda13
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 11.43GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda7
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 39.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 183 Uptime: 17 min Memory: 821.5/7983.0MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

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