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Title: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: jeward on May 09, 2017, 02:04:31 PM
Any recommendations for a stable lightweight web browser? I love surf, but it crashes too much. So I'm typing this to you from Microwatt R10 in Firefox. I've been trying various light browsers, but all of them seem to crash or lock up:
surf
midori
qupzilla

This link crashed surf, midori and maybe caused qupzilla to hang:
https://news.vice.com/story/facebook-is-blocking-thai-users-from-seeing-video-of-their-king-in-a-crop-top

I'm trying to wean myself off chrome/chromium, so I'm using firefox at the moment. While a bit sluggish on my machine, it's at least stable.

sudo inxi -Fmz
System:    Host: ward-ThinkPad-X40 Kernel: 4.4.0-77-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: i3 4.11
                Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
Machine:   System: IBM (portable) product: 2371GHU v: ThinkPad X40
                 Mobo: IBM model: 2371GHU Bios: IBM v: 1UET94WW (1.44 ) date: 12/14/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-) cache: 2048 KB speed: 1400 MHz (max)
Memory:    Array-1 capacity: 2 GB (est) devices: 2 EC: None
                 Device-1: DIMM 1 size: 512 MB speed: N/A type: DDR
                 Device-2: DIMM 2 size: 1 GB speed: N/A type: DDR
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
                 Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
                 tty size: 127x50 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0
               Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-77-generic
Network:  Card-1: Intel 82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: e1000
                IF: enp2s1 state: down mac: <filter>
                Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR5212 802.11abg NIC driver: ath5k
                IF: wlp2s2 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:      HDD Total Size: 40.0GB (14.1% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: HTC426040G9AT00 size: 40.0GB
Partition:   ID-1: / size: 36G used: 3.9G (12%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
                ID-2: swap-1 size: 1.60GB used: 0.34GB (21%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:        No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 71.0C mobo: 55.0C
                Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 4974
Info:         Processes: 148 Uptime: 17:12 Memory: 1129.5/1498.0MB Client: Shell (sudo) inxi: 2.2.35
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: blaze on May 11, 2017, 12:29:03 PM
Tried Vivaldi?
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2017, 02:39:18 PM
Slimjet?

http://www.slimjet.com/en/dlpage.php

Fast, stable browser and less RAM usage than Firefox and Chromium.

The downside is that you have to reinstall it when new versions are released, but that's easily done.
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: leenie on May 29, 2017, 05:39:24 PM
I do like Slimjet. Can't wait for a repository.
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: AndyDee on March 28, 2018, 07:20:17 AM
Many thanks, Dan,

some years ago, I was using a very early version of the x-www-browser.

But Slimjet is so cool, wow...! :)

Andy

Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: leenie on March 28, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Slimjet supports 32 bit.
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 25, 2022, 06:33:22 PM
This is an OLD thread, but I thought it best to wake it up instead of starting a new thread.

I always have the same question that jeward posted. What is the best, fastest, most stable web browser out there. Yes, I use Firefox regularly, but I'm always on the lookout for something better. I ran SeaMonkey for a long time but something happened that made me switch back to Firefox a few years ago. I honestly can't recall what happened, but whatever it was caused me to switch back.

I noticed the Slimjet recommendation and see that it is still available for download. I read over a little of the info on their site, but I didn't see any mention of any addons like uBlock, DownThemAll, or YouTube downloader. Does anybody know if there are any addons for Slimjet?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: cheiron on March 25, 2022, 06:53:43 PM
Slimjet is based on Chromium and all i could find was this. Adblock Plus is mentioned among a few others


https://www.slimjet.com/en/extension-compatibility.php (https://www.slimjet.com/en/extension-compatibility.php)
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 25, 2022, 07:02:54 PM
Dang! That's exactly what I was looking for. Where did you find that?

I can live with Adblock Plus. I can live without DownThemAll. I'd really like to be able to download YouTube videos and other videos on different sites. I did notice on their List Of Features page that you can supposedly download online streaming videos as a feature of the browser.

Next question. Have you, or anybody else, used Slimjet for any length of time? I might give it a whirl if somebody indicates it's worth trying.

Also, do you, or anybody else, have a different browser to suggest?
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: cheiron on March 25, 2022, 09:21:39 PM
This is why i am on the mod team lmao .. i have a knack of finding stuff hehehe


I used to use midori when it was running .. i have since stopped using it as it was discontinued and then relaunched as Astian because they dropped the WebKitGTK and moved to Electron which is Chromium based
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: cheiron on March 25, 2022, 09:43:11 PM
In terms of browser now on my linux .. i use Viper...


It's an executable browser.. it doesnt actually install to the hard drive lol.. its a really weird one to work with but i love it.


if you want to try it on ubuntu .. let me get the instructions


go to https://g.srev.in/get-appimage/viper_browser/


click on the lightning symbol next to the 134.87MB release..


once downloaded.. open terminal


cd Downloads


chmod +x ./*.AppImage


close out terminal


open downloads .. double click viper and set up and play :)


enjoy
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: leenie on March 26, 2022, 03:19:53 PM
@smhardesty, Thank you for waking up this thread! I am using Brave browser. Chromium based with LOTS of extras, adblock builtin. Not looking for a light browser, looking for a secure browser. https://brave.com/linux/ Slimjet still offers 32bit legacy version. That is where I use it.

@cheiron, I downloaded and tried to use Viper browser, aparently it does not like GTK2 with LXDE. It won't start. I do want to try it. Do I need Gnome for it?
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 26, 2022, 03:54:23 PM
cheiron, I'm not seeing anything that looks like a downloadable 135MB file. I don't see any lightning bolt either. Below is what I see. Am I just not seeing things right?

(https://images12.fotki.com/v1677/photos/2/3733132/16443366/Screenshot_20220326_105103-vi.png)
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 26, 2022, 03:57:21 PM
leenie, I use Brave browser on my smart phone. I tried it out on one of my laptops. It's OK. I didn't really run into any problems and there wasn't any one thing that totally turned me off. It's another of those "didn't do it for me" things. LOL!
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: leenie on March 26, 2022, 04:24:45 PM
Link to Viper download: https://g.srev.in/get-appimage/viper_browser/
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: cheiron on March 26, 2022, 04:38:26 PM
Hi Leenie


I am running it on the stock R12 beta as is.. using those exact instructions.. here's a walkthrough on the install :)


Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 27, 2022, 05:19:04 PM
Link to Viper download: https://g.srev.in/get-appimage/viper_browser/

Not sure why, but that link also didn't include a download link for me. I did a search and found a download link on github. I have Viper now and have opened it once. I see in the preferences for Viper that it is a LOT like Firefox. At least close enough for me to at least want to try playing around with.

Thanks to both of you guys for pointing me in the direction of Viper!
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: cheiron on March 27, 2022, 06:18:12 PM
you're welcome smhardesty :)


I wasnt sure if you had got it or not hence why i did the video installation for you and just went through a few settings to show it.


The other browser i use is Falkon .. its kde so expect it to come in at around 200mb install... falkon itself is only 3mb.


If you are interested..


Code: [Select]
open terminal
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install -y falkon
Now this one takes a bit of getting used to on the setting up.. but it's a nice quick light browser.


If you want any further help with anything... let us know and i may do a video walkthrough to help, cause i like doing that stuff lmao
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 27, 2022, 07:09:13 PM
I have the Falkon website bookmarked. I'm going to spend some time paying with Viper before I download and install anything else. I need to tweak the settings in a browser to suit me, then use it for daily web surfing for a while before I know if it is going to be something I like or not. My initial opinion of Viper is that it might very well be a browser I can use daily. It imported my bookmarks from Firefox 98.0.2 with no problems. I also have the ad blocker all set up. I haven't yet had Task Manager opened while I have Viper in use. I need to see the difference in resource usage between Firefox and Viper. I know that Firefox eats right at 7% to 9% of my available memory to run. In my opinion, that's too much for running just a web browser.

Thanks for the tip on Falkon!
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: cheiron on March 27, 2022, 11:19:11 PM
One of the main differences here is that Viper is an executable appimage browser.. it does not install like firefox, chrome, falkon etc.. so outside of a few random folders it keeps your pc clean :)
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 28, 2022, 02:21:10 AM
One of the main differences here is that Viper is an executable appimage browser.. it does not install like firefox, chrome, falkon etc.. so outside of a few random folders it keeps your pc clean :)

Funny you should mention that. Yeah, I knew it was and appimage. I got to thinking about where it saves the data and did a quick bit of searching. There must be a profile folder somewhere. Or is there?

I'm on my regular laptop running Mint 20.2 right now, but earlier this afternoon I did a whole bunch of random surfing on the experimental laptop with R10. I've had to change a couple of settings, but I can see that unless I run onto some weird problem between Viper and some website I visit, I could get to like Viper. Like the old pea brain I am, I didn't check Task Manager to see what the resource usage was. I guess I can do that tomorrow.
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: cheiron on March 28, 2022, 06:53:10 AM

profile folder.. that was a tough one to find.. i "think" i may have found it.. home folder, up, up, should be in /  .... then i went to tmp. there was viper stuff there.. but i am not sure if that is all there is... please let me know if you find other places!! I would like to know this one too lmao

so... in linux .. ctrl + alt + del to open task manager..
You will see Viper's app image sat there at 2.6MB


vipers usage should be the QtWebEngineProcess lines...


This was on my pc.. 1 core of a Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2ghz and about 8gb 3200MHZ DDR4 ram, give or take, on a vm box. only viper open.. running speedtest
(https://i2.paste.pics/GIR58.png)
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 28, 2022, 04:04:42 PM
I'll be experimenting with Viper later today. I'm really curious to see what Viper uses on my experimental laptop. I'll report back after I get a chance to mess around with it today.
Title: Re: The neverending search for the perfect web browser
Post by: smhardesty on March 28, 2022, 08:19:58 PM
I seem to have developed a slight hitch in my get along with Viper. For some reason I can no longer execute the file. Every time I try and launch Viper I get the pop up window you see below. I haven't changed a thing on the laptop since I ran Viper last. The only thing that I did was shut the laptop down. I usually just let my Linux machines run for days and even weeks at a time without a shutdown or reboot. With company here all weekend I shut it down and moved it out of the way. Now, it's a no go on executing the file. It's no biggie. I'm sure there won't be a problem when I get R12 installed. I can run Viper without fail on my Mint 20.2 laptop and it has also been shutdown. Nothing changed on that laptop, just this one. Weird. Don't fret about trying to figure out what happened. I'll just continue to use Firefox until I get R12.

(https://images14.fotki.com/v1676/photos/2/3733132/16443366/Screenshotfrom20220328151242-vi.png)